Myths

To help dispel some common myths floating around about the new Atlas Shrugged movie:

  • “It will star Angelina Jole.” She was in serious discussions at one point a few years ago, but those plans fell through. Nor will it star Brad Pitt, who was also rumored to be interested. The movie stars Taylor Schilling (as Dagny Taggart) and Grant Bowler (as Hank Rearden).
  • “Packing the novel into a single-length film will ruin it.” Or: “It’s going to be a miniseries.” There was some talk of a miniseries many years ago, but none of the networks signed on for it. The current production is instead a trilogy, corresponding to the three parts of the Atlas Shrugged novel. And it will be released in movie theaters, rather than direct to television.
  • “Their budget was only $5 million.” That figure has been cited widely, especially by those disparaging the movie. The final production budget is closer to $10 million, and the full budget is likely to be $25 million by the time the movie is released.
  • “Vadim Perelman is the director.” He was involved in plans for the movie a few years ago, but they didn’t pan out. The director is Paul Johansson.
  • “Hollywood is gonna ruin it!” Many people have complained that Hollywood will inevitably water down Ayn Rand’s themes, but actually there were no major studios involved. The first part of the trilogy was financed out of John Aglialoro’s pocket. The pre-production, shooting, and post processes were not supervised by a studio representative the same way other movies are.

We’ll continue adding (and correcting) myths on this page as we come across them. If you spot any other myths that need to be dispelled, feel free to mention them in the comments below.

  • Nastrange5

    Thank GOD Angelina Jolee is not a part of this production. That would have completely ruined this story – it is going to be difficult enough to translate into film…I heard Jolee and Pitt owned rights to any production of Atlas Shrugged…is that correct? Did they sell those rights?

    • http://www.zader.com Joshua Zader

      No, they never owned any rights to the movie.

      • Vigilant Satyr

        The rights would have become available to them had this production not started filming when it did.

  • Nastrange5

    Thank GOD Angelina Jolee is not a part of this production. That would have completely ruined this story – it is going to be difficult enough to translate into film…I heard Jolee and Pitt owned rights to any production of Atlas Shrugged…is that correct? Did they sell those rights?

    • http://www.zader.com Joshua Zader

      No, they never owned any rights to the movie.

  • Average Human

    This “myth” is of my own creation, but I would appreciate a more in-depth explanation. Why was a white male actor not chosen to play Eddie Willers since in the book there is no doubt he is a white man as described by Ms. Rand herself.

    • http://www.zader.com Joshua Zader

      I don’t know the answer, and don’t care. I cannot fathom why it would matter.

      • Wayne King

        Great answer! The only thing that matters is whether the actor’s performance is competent.

      • Maria

        I agree!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QSRXWQ57VFJO2UNPHCVKSKFDPQ honestann

        The actor looked quite good, but certainly much more self-confident than I imagined Eddie Willers as I read the novel. Of course, that can be partly explained by the different era in the novel versus the film.

    • Philip

      A movie needs to be faithful to a book’s spirit, not in on-essential details. If someone has brown hair rather than grey, whether he is Caucasian, if Rearden were to be forty rather than thirty, … not a single one of these things matters if the movie is effective and powerful.

  • Average Human

    This “myth” is of my own creation, but I would appreciate a more in-depth explanation. Why was a white male actor not chosen to play Eddie Willers since in the book there is no doubt he is a white man as described by Ms. Rand herself.

    • http://www.zader.com Joshua Zader

      I don’t know the answer, and don’t care. I cannot fathom why it would matter.

      • Wayne King

        Great answer! The only thing that matters is whether the actor’s performance is competent.

      • Maria

        I agree!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QSRXWQ57VFJO2UNPHCVKSKFDPQ honestann

        The actor looked quite good, but certainly much more self-confident than I imagined Eddie Willers as I read the novel. Of course, that can be partly explained by the different era in the novel versus the film.

    • Philip

      A movie needs to be faithful to a book’s spirit, not in on-essential details. If someone has brown hair rather than grey, whether he is Caucasian, if Rearden were to be forty rather than thirty, … not a single one of these things matters if the movie is effective and powerful.

  • Thevisualedge

    One myth I’ve heard a lot lately: “Hollywood is going to pervert the story and release a movie stripped of its conservative message.”

    Fans of the novel need to realize that “Hollywood” did not make this film. It was financed directly out of John Aglialoro’s pocket. The pre-production, shooting, and post processes were not supervised by a studio representative the same way other movies are.

    Producing the movie autonomously presents it’s own challenges, but fans can rest assured that the major studios had no influence on how this film was made.

    Chris Corrado
    2nd Assistant Director :)

    • http://www.zader.com Joshua Zader

      That’s a GREAT one, Chris. I’ve added it to our list. :-)

    • guest

      Ayn Rand was not a conservative. Just sayin…

      • Vigilant Satyr

        She was an Objectivist. In many respects economically conservative but not at all socially conservative which has become a major facet of what we see today as ‘conservative.’ She was very anti-communist, having escaped the Soviet Union at a young age and very thankful for having done so as she watched the depredations that happened there throughout her life.

      • guest2

        She notably damned Nixon as a Fascist, and when summoned to the McCarthy hearings as a supposedly ‘friendly’ witness, she declared that it was absolutely the right of Charlie Chaplin et al to make socialist propaganda with their own money, and that government had no right to censor it.

        She would cast most of the Bush administration as villains in Atlas shrugged – because they use government power and tax money to aid their businesses.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GCNVTNXA22AQ7LWJJZUOWIWPK4 Ghost

        Yes she was a conservative. She hated socialism. But if you read any of her books, you would know that. So just keep on drinking Obama’s Bong Water and wake up surprised on the morning of November 7, 2012.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZOXLEGP6KM2VZWTO5G6DHO5YTI Woody

          Hating socialism and being conservative are two different things. Conservatives are as authoritarian on social issues as liberals are on economic ones, and that line has become blurred, I think, over the last 30 years. Read Miss Rand’s words for yourself. She disavowed conservatives, it’s just a fact.

          • Jason Israel

            Well
            If she walks like a conservative, talks like a conservative, writes like a
            conservative then she may have been a conservative. Please do not mix up
            conservatives with Republicans they are not the same thing. Only the liberals
            require 100% adherence to the dogma, Reagan’s tent was pretty big.

    • Anonymous

      Note my comment made today. You have a winner in this film.

    • Anonymous

      Conservative/Liberal … two sides of the same coin … different ways to subjugate through government what Ayn Rand was for: The individual.

  • Thevisualedge

    One myth I’ve heard a lot lately: “Hollywood is going to pervert the story and release a movie stripped of its conservative message.”

    Fans of the novel need to realize that “Hollywood” did not make this film. It was financed directly out of John Aglialoro’s pocket. The pre-production, shooting, and post processes were not supervised by a studio representative the same way other movies are.

    Producing the movie autonomously presents it’s own challenges, but fans can rest assured that the major studios had no influence on how this film was made.

    Chris Corrado
    2nd Assistant Director :)

    • http://www.zader.com Joshua Zader

      That’s a GREAT one, Chris. I’ve added it to our list. :-)

    • guest

      Ayn Rand was not a conservative. Just sayin…

      • Vigilant Satyr

        She was an Objectivist. In many respects economically conservative but not at all socially conservative which has become a major facet of what we see today as ‘conservative.’ She was very anti-communist, having escaped the Soviet Union at a young age and very thankful for having done so as she watched the depredations that happened there throughout her life.

      • guest2

        She notably damned Nixon as a Fascist, and when summoned to the McCarthy hearings as a supposedly ‘friendly’ witness, she declared that it was absolutely the right of Charlie Chaplin et al to make socialist propaganda with their own money, and that government had no right to censor it.

        She would cast most of the Bush administration as villains in Atlas shrugged – because they use government power and tax money to aid their businesses.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GCNVTNXA22AQ7LWJJZUOWIWPK4 Ghost

        Yes she was a conservative. She hated socialism. But if you read any of her books, you would know that. So just keep on drinking Obama’s Bong Water and wake up surprised on the morning of November 7, 2012.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZOXLEGP6KM2VZWTO5G6DHO5YTI Woody

          Hating socialism and being conservative are two different things. Conservatives are as authoritarian on social issues as liberals are on economic ones, and that line has become blurred, I think, over the last 30 years. Read Miss Rand’s words for yourself. She disavowed conservatives, it’s just a fact.

          • Jason Israel

            Well
            If she walks like a conservative, talks like a conservative, writes like a
            conservative then she may have been a conservative. Please do not mix up
            conservatives with Republicans they are not the same thing. Only the liberals
            require 100% adherence to the dogma, Reagan’s tent was pretty big.

    • DaleBrinley

      Note my comment made today. You have a winner in this film.

    • herb666

      Conservative/Liberal … two sides of the same coin … different ways to subjugate through government what Ayn Rand was for: The individual.

  • Rdk1957

    why so many no name actors ???

    • http://www.zader.com Joshua Zader

      It’s an independent production with a budget around $10M. Big name actors would have blown the budget and brought baggage from their former movies and high-profile public statements.

    • http://www.zader.com Joshua Zader

      It’s an independent production with a budget around $10M. Big name actors would have blown the budget and brought baggage from their former movies and high-profile public statements.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QSRXWQ57VFJO2UNPHCVKSKFDPQ honestann

      One top-name actor like Brad Pitt or Angelina Jolie costs TWICE as much as the entire budget for this movie! Other than that, no reason! Hahahaha.

      NOTE: If this movie does well… even reasonably well… the complete lack of top-name actors will drive the critics and statists insane. Why? Because the easiest way to pretend the ideas in the movie were NOT responsible for its success would be to say “they just went to see Brad and Angelina”.

    • http://twitter.com/nrkgalt Naresh Karamchetty

      Many of the top grossing movies of all time did not have actors who were A-list celebrities before the movie came out. This can be said of Star Wars and ET certainly. It does not make financial sense to pay an actor $20 million to do a movie if his presence alone cannot bring in an additional $20 million or more. If I were running a movie studio I would hire only unknown actors for all projects.

  • Rdk1957

    why so many no name actors ???

    • http://www.zader.com Joshua Zader

      It’s an independent production with a budget around $10M. Big name actors would have blown the budget and brought baggage from their former movies and high-profile public statements.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QSRXWQ57VFJO2UNPHCVKSKFDPQ honestann

      One top-name actor like Brad Pitt or Angelina Jolie costs TWICE as much as the entire budget for this movie! Other than that, no reason! Hahahaha.

      NOTE: If this movie does well… even reasonably well… the complete lack of top-name actors will drive the critics and statists insane. Why? Because the easiest way to pretend the ideas in the movie were NOT responsible for its success would be to say “the masses just went to see Brad and Angelina”.

    • http://twitter.com/nrkgalt Naresh Karamchetty

      Many of the top grossing movies of all time did not have actors who were A-list celebrities before the movie came out. This can be said of Star Wars and ET certainly. It does not make financial sense to pay an actor $20 million to do a movie if his presence alone cannot bring in an additional $20 million or more. If I were running a movie studio I would hire only unknown actors for all projects.

  • Scho3

    “I don’t know the answer, and don’t care. I cannot fathom why it would matter”.
    ******************************************
    Of course it matters. You’re either true to the book or you’re not. Eddie Willers is a white man. Period. Just couldn’t make a movie without some blacks in it, could you? I’m already questioning how true to the book you’re going to be when you cow tow to the pressures of having to have a minority in it. It’s obscene.

    • Funslinger

      The movie should be about the ideas of the book. The race of a character has no impact on those ideas.

  • Noel Starkey

    I first read this book in 1962 when I was 13. It took me a whole week dut was worth the effort. Now I will need to wait for the next two parts to come out but I am hopefull that it will have all been worth the wait. I love the April 15th release date. Perhaps the final part will be released shortly before the 2012 election. That would be great.
    noel

  • Noel Starkey

    I first read this book in 1962 when I was 13. It took me a whole week dut was worth the effort. Now I will need to wait for the next two parts to come out but I am hopefull that it will have all been worth the wait. I love the April 15th release date. Perhaps the final part will be released shortly before the 2012 election. That would be great.
    noel

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  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ5TajZYW6Y Pdkrier

    This movie looks hilarious, I can’t wait to see it. There aren’t enough good comedies these days.

  • Gabe

    For Ayn Rand fans, and I am one, I recommend you get a video of one of her other books, The Fountainhead. It is dated, but still powerful. Same message as Atlas Shrugged. I am currently reading “Ayn Rand And The World She Made” by Anne C. Heller. Not the easiest read, but I can’t put it down. An amazing woman.
    Gabe Auerbach

  • Gabe

    For Ayn Rand fans, and I am one, I recommend you get a video of one of her other books, The Fountainhead. It is dated, but still powerful. Same message as Atlas Shrugged. I am currently reading “Ayn Rand And The World She Made” by Anne C. Heller. Not the easiest read, but I can’t put it down. An amazing woman.
    Gabe Auerbach

  • Maria

    Wonderful news! I’ll be checking to find out when it becomes available for us people who cannot go to the theater.
    Maria

  • Maria

    Wonderful news! I’ll be checking to find out when it becomes available for us people who cannot go to the theater.
    Maria

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_F6JIMWUDTXQSLOEOWWQWWT32HU Slosh

    I just viewed the trailer! Fantastic! What an excellent choice of actors. Does anyone know if Leonard Peikoff endorsed / commented on the integrity of the movies content? Just curious. I’ve been waiting for this movie for 25 years and it

    Thank you John Aglialoro for taking the initiative. I hope you profit from the movie! I know my family will be at the theater on the 15th.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_F6JIMWUDTXQSLOEOWWQWWT32HU Slosh

    I just viewed the trailer! Fantastic! What an excellent choice of actors. Does anyone know if Leonard Peikoff endorsed / commented on the integrity of the movies content? Just curious. I’ve been waiting for this movie for 25 years and it

    Thank you John Aglialoro for taking the initiative. I hope you profit from the movie! I know my family will be at the theater on the 15th.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you, it’s something that’s been needed for too long a time. I will guess this film will make it big and you will end up doing a major distribution. I’ll be looking for the DVDs at Costco too and invite all my neighbors here in Washington State over to see it.

  • neals

    Thank you, it’s something that’s been needed for too long a time. I will guess this film will make it big and you will end up doing a major distribution. I’ll be looking for the DVDs at Costco too and invite all my neighbors here in Washington State over to see it.

  • Anonymous

    I do not look at the book as conservative. I looked at the book as anti-communist and anti-Marxist, the latter two disguised as Progressivism. The antagonists are not taking over with guns and violence; they are taking over with laws costumed as fairness and equity. The book is a tremendous story of human nature. When I read my children Aesop’s Fables; they understood that laziness, greed and foolishness always lose. In Atlas Shrugged, the grownups are the ones that do not remember any history or the lessons from “The Ant and the Grasshopper”. It is a simple story that pits Those who Produce against Those Who Take from Those Who Produce. It should be required reading in every literature or sociology class. Too bad it may end up on the “banned list”, like Animal Farm and Fahrenheit 451.

  • Anonymous

    I do not look at the book as conservative. I looked at the book as anti-communist and anti-Marxist, the latter two disguised as Progressivism. The antagonists are not taking over with guns and violence; they are taking over with laws costumed as fairness and equity. The book is a tremendous story of human nature. When I read my children Aesop’s Fables; they understood that laziness, greed and foolishness always lose. In Atlas Shrugged, the grownups are the ones that do not remember any history or the lessons from “The Ant and the Grasshopper”. It is a simple story that pits Those who Produce against Those Who Take from Those Who Produce. It should be required reading in every literature or sociology class. Too bad it may end up on the “banned list”, like Animal Farm and Fahrenheit 451.

    • http://twitter.com/alltidandreas Andreas Lindegren

      what do you mean, banned list?

  • kinni88

    I do not look at the book as conservative. I looked at the book as anti-communist and anti-Marxist, the latter two disguised as Progressivism. The antagonists are not taking over with guns and violence; they are taking over with laws costumed as fairness and equity. The book is a tremendous story of human nature. When I read my children Aesop’s Fables; they understood that laziness, greed and foolishness always lose. In Atlas Shrugged, the grownups are the ones that do not remember any history or the lessons from “The Ant and the Grasshopper”. It is a simple story that pits Those who Produce against Those Who Take from Those Who Produce. It should be required reading in every literature or sociology class. Too bad it may end up on the “banned list”, like Animal Farm and Fahrenheit 451.

  • kinni88

    I do not look at the book as conservative. I looked at the book as anti-communist and anti-Marxist, the latter two disguised as Progressivism. The antagonists are not taking over with guns and violence; they are taking over with laws costumed as fairness and equity. The book is a tremendous story of human nature. When I read my children Aesop’s Fables; they understood that laziness, greed and foolishness always lose. In Atlas Shrugged, the grownups are the ones that do not remember any history or the lessons from “The Ant and the Grasshopper”. It is a simple story that pits Those who Produce against Those Who Take from Those Who Produce. It should be required reading in every literature or sociology class. Too bad it may end up on the “banned list”, like Animal Farm and Fahrenheit 451.

    • http://twitter.com/alltidandreas Andreas Lindegren

      what do you mean, banned list?

  • Anonymous

    I am disappointed to hear that it is “limited release”. I guess if that is true it is late to reconsider, but I feel that this movie will do much better than expected. It definitely has the feel of a “Passion of the Christ” reception just on a smaller scale. You don’t need a billion in sales to make money on a $15 million budget. I would bet this movie is capable of $150 million. There are a lot of Ayn Rand fans who would see this more than once.

  • winthrop

    I am disappointed to hear that it is “limited release”. I guess if that is true it is late to reconsider, but I feel that this movie will do much better than expected. It definitely has the feel of a “Passion of the Christ” reception just on a smaller scale. You don’t need a billion in sales to make money on a $15 million budget. I would bet this movie is capable of $150 million. There are a lot of Ayn Rand fans who would see this more than once.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FI4T5W4PGRYVG36BG5J27VIUN4 Scranton

    I am looking forward to its release. Is there any news on what cities it will be released in? I will make the drive if it is within reason.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FI4T5W4PGRYVG36BG5J27VIUN4 Scranton

    I am looking forward to its release. Is there any news on what cities it will be released in? I will make the drive if it is within reason.

  • Anonymous

    I believe this film will shock Hollywood with its gross. This will be the biggest movie of the year and top grossing, possibly for all time. It will set opening day records and opening weekend records. DVD sales will be through the roof.

    • Anonymous

      Everyone please remember… Passion of the Christ did ok (sarcasm) at the box office with no Hollywood backing. Just because the IDEA of the movie may be controversial to some doesn’t mean it can’t be successfull. And what was Ayn Rand preaching… success and happiness.

  • DaleBrinley

    I believe this film will shock Hollywood with its gross. This will be the biggest movie of the year and top grossing, possibly for all time. It will set opening day records and opening weekend records. DVD sales will be through the roof.

    • cepheus5150

      Everyone please remember… Passion of the Christ did ok (sarcasm) at the box office with no Hollywood backing. Just because the IDEA of the movie may be controversial to some doesn’t mean it can’t be successfull. And what was Ayn Rand preaching… success and happiness by using your mind.

  • Anonymous

    This film will shock Hollywood. It will be the top grossing film of the year and will set records for opening day and opening weekend. May end up being the top grossing film of all time. DVD and Blu-Ray sales will be through the roof. The $25 Million budget will be made back the first weekend. I can see this film eventually grossing $1 Billion. This will only make the next 2 parts better because of a bigger budget. Just keep studio and Hollywood types hands off. They’ll be tripping over each other trying to be part of the next 2 films.

    • Anonymous

      It will do none of those things if it doesn’t make it into theaters, which apparently it is not doing. No theaters in Missouri are showing it. And it looks like if I want to see it in Illinois, I’m going to have to drive several hours.

      • Anonymous

        It’s an Indie film, which means limited viewings initially and expansion to more theaters later. This is something that has been very successful before, as with the Blair Witch movie.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QSRXWQ57VFJO2UNPHCVKSKFDPQ honestann

        Last week the film was not being shown anywhere within 300 miles of me. So I… and presumably many others… emailed and called theaters and theater-chain headquarters to request and “demand” they bring Atlas Shrugged to my area.

        Well, this week FIVE nearby theaters decided to add Atlas Shrugged to their schedule on April 15th !!!

        That’s a subtle HINT… HINT… HINT… do some emailing and calling yourself. It seems to work !!!

      • http://www.facebook.com/djinfam0us Bobby Scarbrough

        Actually it is showing in Springfield, Tulsa, Little Rock and a lot of other places in our region. I’m heading to Tulsa as it is the closest option and I have friends there I can drag with me :)

      • Anonymous

        Email your local theaters (info on their websites) — they may not listen to you but at least your email will bring it to their awareness.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QSRXWQ57VFJO2UNPHCVKSKFDPQ honestann

      Hahahahaha! We wish! However, to be objective (!!! oh my !!!), we should be happy if the movie is within the top 50 films of the year, revenue wise. Enthusiasm is great, but you’re setting yourself up for a big let down. At least it appears likely the movie with earn back the $10-million it cost to produce, which at least generates the funds to produce part 2. That’s the main hurdle to overcome.

      I plan to watch the movie 3 times opening day and night, then at least twice in the days thereafter. Anyone who wants to “make sure” parts 2 and 3 are produced should watch it several times, and buy a few copies of the DVD when that is released. What’s a mere $100 in the grand scheme of things?

    • http://twitter.com/GodlessAtheist Godless Atheist

      It is great to see so many republicans supporting an Atheist author.

      • Wes Nunya Bizness

         I could care less about her religious affiliations, it does not take away from the message of the book one bit. Nice try though.

      • Jason Israel

        If you read the book you may find that she was talking
        about an organized religions use of guilt to get man to follow the churches Needs.
        As for my Christian feelings reading what an Atheist speaks of then you do not
        know many good Christians.

  • DaleBrinley

    This film will shock Hollywood. It will be the top grossing film of the year and will set records for opening day and opening weekend. May end up being the top grossing film of all time. DVD and Blu-Ray sales will be through the roof. The $25 Million budget will be made back the first weekend. I can see this film eventually grossing $1 Billion. This will only make the next 2 parts better because of a bigger budget. Just keep studio and Hollywood types hands off. They’ll be tripping over each other trying to be part of the next 2 films.

    • smalltowndude

      It will do none of those things if it doesn’t make it into theaters, which apparently it is not doing. No theaters in Missouri are showing it. And it looks like if I want to see it in Illinois, I’m going to have to drive several hours.

      • Chalenge

        It’s an Indie film, which means limited viewings initially and expansion to more theaters later. This is something that has been very successful before, as with the Blair Witch movie.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QSRXWQ57VFJO2UNPHCVKSKFDPQ honestann

        Last week the film was not being shown anywhere within 300 miles of me. So I… and presumably many others… emailed and called theaters and theater-chain headquarters to request and “demand” they bring Atlas Shrugged to my area.

        Well, this week FIVE nearby theaters decided to add Atlas Shrugged to their schedule on April 15th !!!

        That’s a subtle HINT… HINT… HINT… do some emailing and calling yourself. It seems to work !!!

      • http://www.facebook.com/djinfam0us Bobby Scarbrough

        Actually it is showing in Springfield, Tulsa, Little Rock and a lot of other places in our region. I’m heading to Tulsa as it is the closest option and I have friends there I can drag with me :)

      • laissezfaire1776

        Email your local theaters (info on their websites) — they may not listen to you but at least your email will bring it to their awareness.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QSRXWQ57VFJO2UNPHCVKSKFDPQ honestann

      Hahahahaha! We wish! However, to be objective (!!! oh my !!!), we should be happy if the movie is within the top 50 films of the year, revenue wise. Enthusiasm is great, but you’re setting yourself up for a big let down. At least it appears likely the movie with earn back the $10-million it cost to produce, which at least generates the funds to produce part 2. That’s the main hurdle to overcome.

      I plan to watch the movie 3 times opening day and night, then at least twice in the days thereafter. Anyone who wants to “make sure” parts 2 and 3 are produced should watch it several times, and buy a few copies of the DVD when that is released. What’s a mere $100 in the grand scheme of things?

    • http://twitter.com/GodlessAtheist Godless Atheist

      It is great to see so many republicans supporting an Atheist author.

      • Wes Nunya Bizness

         I could care less about her religious affiliations, it does not take away from the message of the book one bit. Nice try though.

      • Jason Israel

        If you read the book you may find that she was talking
        about an organized religions use of guilt to get man to follow the churches Needs.
        As for my Christian feelings reading what an Atheist speaks of then you do not
        know many good Christians.

    • bsolestis

      Swing and a miss, Mr. Brinley…a swing and a mighty miss. “$1 Billion”? For AS #1 alone?? Oh dear. All three AS’s put together have made less than $9 million.

  • Anonymous

    Myth: I will be seeing this movie 4 times in theaters, once more than my previous record: the Dark Knight (3 times in theaters).

    Fact: I will be seeing this movie 2 dozen times in theaters! (8 times as many times as I saw Dark Knight in theaters)

  • dubthedankest

    Myth: I will be seeing this movie 4 times in theaters, once more than my previous record: the Dark Knight (3 times in theaters).

    Fact: I will be seeing this movie 2 dozen times in theaters! (8 times as many times as I saw Dark Knight in theaters)

  • Anonymous

    I was initially shocked to discover that “Ayn Rand Institute” didn’t support the movie in any way. They hold some amateur “Atlas Shrugged” garbage video contest, but do not invest in the actual movie.

    Then after thinking for a few more seconds, it made sense to me. I think this movie will accomplish more than what ARI was able to accomplish in 25 years of its existence! They know it and they are holding back any way possible!

  • Anonymous

    I was initially shocked to discover that Ayn Rand Institute didn’t support Atlas Shrugged the movie.

    Then it made sense to me.

    The movie will accomplish what Ayn Rand Institute has not been able to accomplish in 25 years of its existence!

    • http://www.facebook.com/rahiym.allah Original Genetics

       The ARI is the stalest and most boring group of “super nerds” on the planet.  I’m happy to see a Rand supporter who doesn’t mind calling them out, and who sees them for what they are: sneering snobs who bore audiences, and drive people away from Rand’s ideas.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Raymond-Smith/1503279290 Raymond Smith

    I can’t think of a more timely moment in our nations economic history for Rand’s classic work to come to the media forefront. Kudos, and great hope that the movies (3) will remain faithful to the philosophy.

  • RaymondSmith

    I can’t think of a more timely moment in our nations economic history for Rand’s classic work to come to the media forefront. Kudos, and great hope that the movies (3) will remain faithful to the philosophy.

  • Anonymous

    Can someone please tell me that the third movie will NOT be a musical. I have yet to hear if that is a joke or not.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2QJH7OCSK4GUYCYZ3Z3HCQE2SY Michael

      They were kidding around.

  • gatortarian

    Can someone please tell me that the third movie will NOT be a musical. I have yet to hear if that is a joke or not.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2QJH7OCSK4GUYCYZ3Z3HCQE2SY Michael

      They were kidding around.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TANGKSOLRLMN3IJNEIW6VGBFMI AhmadH

    Developer1976: Really?? Can you provide any evidence whatsoever that ARI didn’t support the movie? Here is evidence that ARI does support it: http://arc-tv.com/atlas-shrugged-movie-and-the-ayn-rand-institute/.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TANGKSOLRLMN3IJNEIW6VGBFMI AhmadH

    Developer1976: Really?? Can you provide any evidence whatsoever that ARI didn’t support the movie? Here is evidence that ARI does support it: http://arc-tv.com/atlas-shrugged-movie-and-the-ayn-rand-institute/.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GCNVTNXA22AQ7LWJJZUOWIWPK4 Ghost

    I hope and pray this movie sends a message to our nation before the 2012 elections. I wish the producer and crew the best of luck.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GCNVTNXA22AQ7LWJJZUOWIWPK4 Ghost

    I hope and pray this movie sends a message to our nation before the 2012 elections. I wish the producer and crew the best of luck.

  • Anonymous

    What is this, if not “a feature film”?

  • Anonymous

    What is it, then, if not “a feature film”?

    • http://www.zader.com Joshua Zader

      Some people use the term “feature film” to mean a single-length film — as something like “the opposite of a series” — but it looks like its technical meaning is closer to “the opposite of a trailer; the primary feature at a film’s showing.” I’ve adjusted my text above accordingly. Thanks for the correction.

      Does anyone knows what the word is for a single-length film, in contrast to a series?

  • WesleyMouth

    What is it, then, if not “a feature film”?

    • http://www.zader.com Joshua Zader

      Some people use the term “feature film” to mean a single-length film — as something like “the opposite of a series” — but it looks like its technical meaning is closer to “the opposite of a trailer; the primary feature at a film’s showing.” I’ve adjusted my text above accordingly. Thanks for the correction.

      Does anyone knows what the word is for a single-length film, in contrast to a series?

  • http://www.acceleratorforsuccess.com Bill Covert the Accelerator!

    There are no showing in NH on April 15th (yet). Bummer!

  • http://www.acceleratorforsuccess.com Bill Covert the Accelerator!

    There are no showing in NH on April 15th (yet). Bummer!

  • Anonymous

    A movie not infected with Hollywood mediocrity and socialism? It will be like a cool refreshing breeze on a hot summer day. We will get a taste of how the Russians behind the iron curtain must have felt upon seeing a rare American movie. John Aglialoro – Thank you, Thank you, thank you!

  • Lotusindra

    A movie not infected with Hollywood mediocrity and socialism? It will be like a cool refreshing breeze on a hot summer day. We will get a taste of how the Russians behind the iron curtain must have felt upon seeing a rare American movie. John Aglialoro – Thank you, Thank you, thank you!

  • Anonymous

    A movie not infected with Hollywood mediocrity and socialism? It will be like a cool refreshing breeze on a hot summer day. We will get a taste of how the Russians behind the iron curtain must have felt when seeing a rare American movie for the first time.

    John Aglialoro – Thank You, Thank You, Thank You!

  • Lotusindra

    A movie not infected with Hollywood mediocrity and socialism? It will be like a cool refreshing breeze on a hot summer day. We will get a taste of how the Russians behind the iron curtain must have felt when seeing a rare American movie for the first time.

    John Aglialoro – Thank You, Thank You, Thank You!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TUKCGS5HTMRDCH3DTUBQVFTDMY Gw

    I’m very excited.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TUKCGS5HTMRDCH3DTUBQVFTDMY Gw

    I’m very excited.

  • Anonymous

    hey guys, i feel really at home now knowing that there are so many other people who hate god and charity! keep up the good work!

    • http://profiles.google.com/dedicated.dad Dedicated Dad

      What we hate is coercion.

      YOU do not have the right to dictate what *I* do with my time or property.

      Why is that so hard to understand?

    • http://twitter.com/nrkgalt Naresh Karamchetty

      If you loved God you would capitalize your reference to Him.

  • wedalivin

    hey guys, i feel really at home now knowing that there are so many other people who hate god and charity! keep up the good work!

    • http://profiles.google.com/dedicated.dad Dedicated Dad

      What we hate is coercion.

      YOU do not have the right to dictate what *I* do with my time or property.

      Why is that so hard to understand?

    • http://twitter.com/nrkgalt Naresh Karamchetty

      If you loved God you would capitalize your reference to Him.

  • Anonymous

    its just… i knew i was always justified in feeling absolutely selfish, but i didnt have anything to back it up. so im so glad i found the flawless logic of objectivism!

    • http://profiles.google.com/dedicated.dad Dedicated Dad

      B___S___.

      I’m utterly objectivist, and I guaran-dang-tee that I’ve given more to charitable pursuits – both in terms of absolute hours/dollars and percentages of free time/income than you or anyone you know.

      The difference is that **I** DECIDE who is worthy of my help. I – as the rightful owner of my time and the fruits of my labor – am the *ONLY* one with the right to do so!

      Voting for collectivist politicians to extort money from me at the point of a government gun and give it to those who have not earned it is *NOT* CHARITY! It’s COLLECTIVISM – which is the greatest evil ever to inflict our species – and thus EVIL.

  • wedalivin

    its just… i knew i was always justified in feeling absolutely selfish, but i didnt have anything to back it up. so im so glad i found the flawless logic of objectivism!

    • http://profiles.google.com/dedicated.dad Dedicated Dad

      B___S___.

      I’m utterly objectivist, and I guaran-dang-tee that I’ve given more to charitable pursuits – both in terms of absolute hours/dollars and percentages of free time/income than you or anyone you know.

      The difference is that **I** DECIDE who is worthy of my help. I – as the rightful owner of my time and the fruits of my labor – am the *ONLY* one with the right to do so!

      Voting for collectivist politicians to extort money from me at the point of a government gun and give it to those who have not earned it is *NOT* CHARITY! It’s COLLECTIVISM – which is the greatest evil ever to inflict our species – and thus EVIL.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Timmie-Bee/1641595762 Timmie Bee

    petition your local thatre to show it! i did. now i get to watch it in Alabama, where it wasn’t originally scheduled…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Timmie-Bee/1641595762 Timmie Bee

    petition your local thatre to show it! i did. now i get to watch it in Alabama, where it wasn’t originally scheduled…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FXJZOBSRIPES5R5PGDERLI66WE EndianX

    I heard public money went in to the making of this movie. Is there any truth to that?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FXJZOBSRIPES5R5PGDERLI66WE EndianX

    I heard public money (from the state of California) went to the making of this movie. Is there any truth to that?

    • http://www.zader.com Joshua Zader

      What’s your source? (It wouldn’t entirely surprise me, since most movies made in California probably qualify for some kind of state assistance, given how huge the movie industry is there.)

      Not that it matters much. If public funding to went into movies that fundamentally encourage an end to the public funding of movies — that sounds wonderful.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2QJH7OCSK4GUYCYZ3Z3HCQE2SY Michael

        I’ve heard a rumor that Louisiana “public money” went in – in the form of tax breaks? No evidence, as usual, at least so far. [And tax breaks are not "public money," of course.]

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FXJZOBSRIPES5R5PGDERLI66WE EndianX

    I heard public money (from the state of California) went to the making of this movie. Is there any truth to that?

    • http://www.zader.com Joshua Zader

      What’s your source? (It wouldn’t entirely surprise me, since most movies made in California probably qualify for some kind of state assistance, given how huge the movie industry is there.)

      Not that it matters much. If public funding to went into movies that fundamentally encourage an end to the public funding of movies — that sounds wonderful.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2QJH7OCSK4GUYCYZ3Z3HCQE2SY Michael

        I’ve heard a rumor that Louisiana “public money” went in – in the form of tax breaks? No evidence, as usual, at least so far. [And tax breaks are not "public money," of course.]

  • http://www.facebook.com/djinfam0us Bobby Scarbrough

    Can’t wait to see the movie. I’m gathering a group for a trip to see it. Maybe we’ll see it twice :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/djinfam0us Bobby Scarbrough

    Can’t wait to see the movie. I’m gathering a group for a trip to see it. Maybe we’ll see it twice :)

  • Waited445years

    Just saw it here in Dallas. Basically true to the book. Can’t wait for Part II, etc.

  • Anonymous

    Just saw the movie in Dallas. Very much like the book. Can’t wait for Part II, etc.

  • Anonymous

    Just saw the movie in Dallas. Pretty true to the book. Can’t wait for Part II, etc.

  • http://profiles.google.com/nff457 Scott Dalrymple

    You guys realize of course that this myths page actually has the facts in bold as if they were actually the myths… If you actually read the explanations you will get that the bold statements are the correcting facts not the myths but I still think this is kindof funny

    • http://www.zader.com Joshua Zader

      Great point, Scott. Fixed!

  • http://profiles.google.com/nff457 Scott Dalrymple

    You guys realize of course that this myths page actually has the facts in bold as if they were actually the myths… If you actually read the explanations you will get that the bold statements are the correcting facts not the myths but I still think this is kindof funny

    • http://www.zader.com Joshua Zader

      Great point, Scott. Fixed!

  • http://profiles.google.com/emagliacane Elaine Magliacane

    Went to see it today… it was EXCELLENT… very well done.. thank you for bringing one of my favorite books of all time to the movie screen… I thought the book would be outlawed before hollywood made a movie… and then if they made it they’d change it so much it wouldn’t be worth seeing… all my fears were for naught… Ayn Rand would be pleased I’m SURE OF IT!

  • http://profiles.google.com/emagliacane Elaine Magliacane

    Went to see it today… it was EXCELLENT… very well done.. thank you for bringing one of my favorite books of all time to the movie screen… I thought the book would be outlawed before hollywood made a movie… and then if they made it they’d change it so much it wouldn’t be worth seeing… all my fears were for naught… Ayn Rand would be pleased I’m SURE OF IT!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AZNQ2PFMJCZIBIX7MIQLNMZARA Chris J

    Ok so my friends and I just went to the movie, it was fantastic. We went to a theater in Green Bay WI and they “accidentally” sold all three of us tickets to the wrong movie. Then told us just to go into the correct theater. I believe that the tellers at the theater did this intentionally to show lower ticket sales for this movie than actually are. I am just wondering if anyone else had this same issue with the theater they went to?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O6TQHUSDWUM2QJHL77VDOIVEFU Stephanie

      I just got back from the theater here in Green Bay, WI, and this was the first time in all my years buying movie tickets that the ticket tearing guy didn’t give directions to the right theater room. Usually they say to the left or right and then the room number. All we received was silence (but since I can read we found the movie ok). By the way, I loved the movie too. Very disappointed when it ended! I wanted to see parts II and III right away!

      • http://profiles.google.com/dgafner D Gafner

        Interesting. Fairfax, VA is where I saw the movie, and the same thing happened–no directions to the screen. Seems ludicrous to note such a minor infraction of so-called theatre protocol, yet, at the time it struck me. (BTW, Stephanie, I grew up in Oshkosh. Glad to hear GB was showing the film.)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AZNQ2PFMJCZIBIX7MIQLNMZARA Chris J

    Ok so my friends and I just went to the movie, it was fantastic. We went to a theater in Green Bay WI and they “accidentally” sold all three of us tickets to the wrong movie. Then told us just to go into the correct theater. I believe that the tellers at the theater did this intentionally to show lower ticket sales for this movie than actually are. I am just wondering if anyone else had this same issue with the theater they went to?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O6TQHUSDWUM2QJHL77VDOIVEFU Stephanie

      I just got back from the theater here in Green Bay, WI, and this was the first time in all my years buying movie tickets that the ticket tearing guy didn’t give directions to the right theater room. Usually they say to the left or right and then the room number. All we received was silence (but since I can read we found the movie ok). By the way, I loved the movie too. Very disappointed when it ended! I wanted to see parts II and III right away!

      • http://profiles.google.com/dgafner D Gafner

        Interesting. Fairfax, VA is where I saw the movie, and the same thing happened–no directions to the screen. Seems ludicrous to note such a minor infraction of so-called theatre protocol, yet, at the time it struck me. (BTW, Stephanie, I grew up in Oshkosh. Glad to hear GB was showing the film.)

  • Anonymous

    Loved the movie. I am now reading the book and love that too. I am glad somebody stuck to their guns to get this movie made. Look forward to the 2nd and 3rd movie.

  • johne2123

    Loved the movie. I am now reading the book and love that too. I am glad somebody stuck to their guns to get this movie made. Look forward to the 2nd and 3rd movie.

  • Anonymous

    Building upon the philosophy proclaimed in the 1943 novel “The Fountainhead” about the career struggles and ultimate success of the architect Howard Roark, Ayn Rand, the Russian-American philosophical novelist (1905-82), published the novel “Atlas Shrugged” in 1957. Its basic plot describes the worldwide and especially American economic collapse that results from a “strike” by the productive rich businessmen and other innovators in society. Much like the approach of her countryman Dostoevsky in “The Brothers Karamazov,” “Atlas Shrugged” lays out the author’s philosophical position through the characters’ actions, dialogs, and speeches. Although it states an overall intellectual position much more completely than “The Fountainhead” did, it’s less successful as a novel since its characters’ development and actions are so subordinated to proclaiming a message. Despite its happy ending, the novel also has a generally pessimistic, depressing air as it describes in such detail for so many pages the world’s and especially America’s general economic decline and collapse as various wrong-headed laws and regulations are implemented and more of the productive rich and capable go on strike. Although a full review of Ayn Rand’s philosophy from an intellectual Christian perspective would require a book that rivals the length of “Altas Shrugged,” this essay will only hit upon a few obvious errors and limitations in Rand’s philosophy. However, it’s necessary to give the devil his due when he’s right: In certain areas, Ayn Rand’s philosophy is much more correct than the skeptical, subjectivist secular philosophy that reigns in our culture today, which is largely traceable back to the Scottish philosopher David Hume (1711-1776). (Corresponding to her original Russian nationality, Ayn Rand focused so much more of her fire upon the Prussian philosopher Immanuel Kant (1724-1804) than upon Hume. But in the English-speaking world, Hume is surely more influential overall, especially when considering that so often Kant’s philosophy took Hume’s positions as his starting point. He’s been called the “Prussian Hume” for good reason. Hume also is a better writer than Kant, which surely promoted his influence among those who can read English). It’s a major error for Christians to try to refute atheism by attacking human reason broadly, such as found in Dinesh D’Souza’s “What’s So Great About Christianity.” Christianity isn’t proven to be true by (say) attacking the metaphysical reliability of the law of cause and effect, as Hume did. Human reason has its place, just as sex does, but we need to keep both from jumping the tracks that mark God’s will for us, which is His law as revealed by Scripture.

    Ayn Rand’s most fundamental error is to assume the truth of the broader skeptical culture concerning the arguments for God’s existence and the Bible’s historical accuracy. She spends an enormous amount of effort in attacking Christian ethics, as it proclaims the need to sacrifice ourselves to help the weak and to serve God, and the place of suffering in serving a useful purpose (as Christians believe) in strengthening our character. But she hardly ever felt the need to refute the traditional proofs for God’s existence. Apparently she knew nothing about the standard evidence for a rational faith in the Bible as a revelation from an almighty God based upon archeological discoveries, its historical accuracy, and fulfilled prophecies. I would publicly challenge any Objectivist to refute in detail, page by page, even my own essay that reviews such evidence, which is posted on the apologetics page of this Web site: http://www.lionofjudah1.org/Apologeticshtml/Is the Bible the Word of God.htm How much do those advocating Objectivism know about such writers as C.S. Lewis, Josh McDowell, Lee Strobel, Henry Morris, Duane Gish, J.P. Moreland, Francis Schaeffer, Phillip E. Johnson, R.C. Sproul, Norman Giesler, Gleason Archer, etc.? How much of the Objectivist position is based upon simple raw ignorance of Christian apologetics? Could even the likes of Dr. Leonard Peikoff, Ayn Rand’s intellectual and literary heir, be stunned and lose if had to debate publicly the likes of Dr. Duane Gish about the theory of evolution’s scientific merits?

    Ironically, Rand took for granted the religious foundation left her from David Hume and Immanuel Kant, that western philosophy had refuted natural theology in the Thomist mold (as based in principle upon Romans 1:19-21). She accepted the conclusions of her philosophical archenemy, Kant in “The Critique of Pure Reason,” who refuted (to the reigning culture’s satisfaction) the three traditional arguments (the ontological, the cosmological, and the teleological, based on design) for God’s existence. (The true philosophical antipode to Kant is the medieval theologian and philosopher Thomas Aquinas (1224-1274), who used Greek reason to help support the Christian faith. It’s no coincidence, as Western culture has increasingly rejected medieval scholasticism’s general synthesis reason and faith, that it has become both more irreligious and less rational in the past three centuries). For someone who supposedly thought through her intellectual foundation to the nth degree, she knew astonishingly so little about the theory of evolution, despite it’s our civilization’s reigning myth for refuting the argument from design. “Darwin’s Black Box,” by Michael Behe, which it analyzes irreducible biological complexity using an ingenious “mousetrap” analogy, demonstrates that the argument from design is still a live issue. Contrary to Darwinism’s advocates, updated versions of William Paley’s argument from design based upon finding a watch on a beach is still fully intellectually credible. Although her truly fanatical atheism utterly depends upon the truth of this metaphysical construct that masquerades as a scientific theory, she admitted (“Philosophy: Who Needs It,” p. 45): “I am not a student of the theory of evolution and, therefore, I am neither its supporter nor its opponent.” One of Objectivism’s most fundamental weaknesses comes from assuming the truth of the general secular culture’s skepticism about the rationality of faith in God and the Bible as His revelation.

    Objectivism also describes even the high Middle Ages (c. 1050 to 1300) using the crudest kind of Enlightenment-era historical bias. Ironically, Aristotle had more intellectual influence than Plato when Scholasticism was at its height than during the Renaissance. It’s not accurate to claim that the Medievals, including even someone like Augustine, told men “to reject their mind as an impotent tool” (“For the New Intellectual,” p. 24). Admitting the limits of human reason isn’t the same as claiming it to be completely useless. Clearly enough, Roman Catholicism upheld all sorts of entrenched doctrinal errors based upon tradition that required the Protestant Reformers Luther, Calvin, and Zwingli to start to clean up as they turned to the Bible as the ultimate source of authority. Catholicism also plainly spilled a lot of blood during the wars of religion it promoted against the Muslims and various religious dissidents. It unleashed the Inquisition against suspected heretics in its midst. But in response, note that Dinesh D’Souza’s “What’s So Great About Christianity” usefully recounts how the Medieval church atrocities spilled far less blood than the godless Communists did historically. The Medieval church was a piker compared to Stalin, Mao, and Hitler, despite it had far more centuries to deceive and oppress people than the 20th century’s totalitarians had.

    Furthermore, the church eventually nurtured in its universities a core of intellectuals who provided the foundation for the scientific revolution and the Renaissance. After all, in what civilization did modern science first arise? It wasn’t in China, India, or Islam, despite their generally greater wealth and political stability/unity. The Medieval Muslim philosophers never managed to break clearly with Aristotle’s awesome authority intellectually so as to point out his scientific errors. Islam’s leading theologians fell into a nearly blind rejection of Aristotle and belief in objective scientific law. But even before the time of Galileo, the West’s scholars eventually managed to figure out a way to accept where Aristotle was right while also pointing out to where he was wrong. After all, from where did da Vinci and Galileo get many of their ideas, such as about physics? It wasn’t merely Aristotle’s Organon. Look back to whom they built upon in their writings, to their 14th-century predecessors at the University of Paris, especially Buridan and Oresme. To dismiss such men who advanced physics beyond its ancient classical foundation as mere “witch doctors” simply isn’t credible, except among those who remain unaware about the historical research of Stanley Jaki and Pierre Duhem into Medieval science.

    Likewise, the claim that educated people in Europe thought the world was flat can easily be refuted from the pages of Thomas Aquinas’ “Summa Theologica”: They had no need for Columbus to prove the world was round in order to believe that it was, which is an easily exploded historical myth. The late Medieval period can’t be merely dismissed as the preserve of obscurantism, dogmatism, and bloodshed.

    Most importantly, Objectivism supplies no solution to why could be called mankind’s “existential dilemma.” That is, we are all alive now, but know we will all die one day. So then, what will we do about it? Can we find a way to escape death and live forever? If so, how? The Bible reveals a solution, by accepting Jesus as personal Savior, so that after we die, we will be resurrected to glory (or translated, as the case may be, should we be alive when Jesus returns). After all, Jesus died, and then returned from the dead. He experienced death, and then came back from it. He is the resurrection and the bread of life. If He hadn’t actually miraculously risen from the dead, the behavior of His earliest disciples wouldn’t have been transformed from dejected, cowardly fear (during which Peter denied his Savior three times) into indomitable lions who faced large crowds and publicly challenged their nation’s leadership for crucifying the Messiah. Hence, the reports of Jesus’ resurrection are historically reliable. If the Bible is what it says it is, then Christians are offered eternal life. It has a solution to death, but Rand’s philosophy doesn’t. At best, assuming it was fully right, it only makes the lives of its adherents more pleasant before the grave overtakes them. Unlike Christianity, Objectivism offers its adherents only death.

    Let’s commend Ayn Rand for believing morality is absolute, which she argued for in her essay, “The Cult of Moral Grayness” in her collection of essays, “The Virtue of Selfishness: A New Concept of Egoism.” So far as it goes, she’s right to find a basis for values in man’s relationship with nature, that indeed “ought” can be derived from “is.” As she explains (her emphasis, p. 17): “An organism’s life is its standard of value: that which furthers its life is the good, that which threatens it is the evil. . . . Thus the validation of value judgments is to be achieved by reference to the facts of reality. The fact that a living entity is, determines what it ought to do.” However, Objectivism falls short by not discovering that the values that man needs for a rational life (including a rational happiness, not just mere survival) in relationship to the world are only there because God built them into nature and set up that relationship. (Objectivism plainly agrees with the spirit of the 19th-century British philosopher John Stuart Mill’s statement that it’s better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a pig satisfied, that not all pleasures or means of survival are commensurate or morally equal). It’s for this reason that the pagan gentiles, who knew nothing about God’s word, could still obey some of its dictates, based upon their human reason and psychological needs (Romans 2:14-15):

    “When Gentiles who have not the law do by nature what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. They show that what the law requires is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness and their conflicting thoughts accuse or perhaps excuse them.”

    Furthermore, Objectivist morality emphasizes justice at the grave expense of mercy, which Christianity unites through the sacrificial atoning sacrifice of Jesus upon the cross. It’s a major reason why so many objectivists in the “Ayn Rand cult” of New York in the 1960s were so often generally unhappy people: They would condemn others as well as themselves, and find no way to get forgiveness for the inevitable moral faults that they felt they committed according to their own absolute moral code. To have unconditional love for someone need not lead to condoning or ignoring their sins or moral faults: Love must be tough (cf. Hebrews 12:5-11), not mere squishy “kindness” as C.S. Lewis defined it in “The Problem of Pain.” True love seeks the improvement of the one so loved, not merely the removal of his, her, or its pain.

    Despite being an atheist, Ayn Rand, however is to be praised for never complaining about the problem of evil: She never morally condemns God for giving humanity free will. Indeed, she denied the spirit of most of her fellow atheists and agnostics by optimistically upholding what she called the benevolent universe premise, that pain need not be an intrinsic, fundamental part of mankind’s relationship to the universe. Since death and much pain from bad health simply can’t be avoided in this life before Jesus’ return, she was unduly optimistic. As it is written, it’s appointed once for all men to die (Hebrews 9:27). Rand’s follower, Robert Hessen, fails to realize this when writing, “The misery in which women lived before capitalism, might have made them cherish the New Testament injunction: ‘Love not the world, nor the things that are in the world.’ But the productive splendor of capitalism vanquished that view” (“Capitalism the Unknown Ideal,” p. 117). But does materialism ever fully satisfy us? Does having modern luxuries solve the problems of death, bad family relationships, and even much bad health? Does having indoor plumbing fix bad marriages? Does having electricity ultimately prevent death? However, there’s some Scriptural foundation ironically Rand’s optimism: Revelation 21:4 shows that evil is indeed a temporary intruder in the universe. After having served its ultimate purpose, the evil that entered the world when Satan rebelled and when Adam and Eve sinned will one day be banished by the power of God. Because Objectivism upholds a code of moral absolutes that it attempts to objectively derive from nature and mankind’s relationship with it, it parts company from most atheists and agnostics, who opportunistically attack God for allowing evil despite they also deny evil exists based upon moral relativism. (Of course, if one believes nothing is immoral, then it would be consistent to believe it’s fine for God to allow anything and everything “bad” to happen. If it’s always immoral to judge and condemn others, then it’s also immoral to judge and condemn God for anything He does or doesn’t do). In this regard, Objectivism isn’t totally wrong, but definitely falls short, by properly but selectively perceiving how life need not be miserable all the time, but it passes over how inevitably we’ll all grow sick and die, even if we’ve all lived rational lives by its moral code.

    Rand was gravely wrong to confuse the sacrifice of physical values with the sacrifice of one’s moral beliefs. When a Christian martyr chooses to die instead of denying Christ, as has happened so often in history, that’s no different in spirit than Howard Roark’s decision to choose to work in a quarry rather than build a large skyscraper that incorporated compromises in design that he deemed unacceptable. The sincere Christian simply believes that his relationship with his Savior, which is founded on specific beliefs about Him, should never be publicly denied, even at the expense of his continued life. For those Christians who could have worshiped Caesar, and then saved their physical lives, that would be a betrayal like John Galt’s choosing to stop striking to please his torturers in order to avoid the pain of the electric shocks administered to him near the end of the novel “Atlas Shrugged.”

    Rand also routinely described altruism in exaggerated terms that assumed it had to incorporate the use of force to accomplish its objectives, such as in her definition of socialism’s goals in “For the New Intellectual” (her emphasis, p. 43): “Socialism is the doctrine that man has no right to exist for his own sake, that his life and his work do not belong to him, but belong to society, that the only justification of his existence is his service to society, and that society man dispose of him in any way it pleases for the sake of whatever it deems to be its own tribal collective good.” But true Christianity follows the spirit of the Sermon of the Mount: If Christians are really supposed to be pacifists and to turn the cheek, they obviously shouldn’t be forcing people to care for the poor in violation of the eighth commandment. An officer of the Salvation Army who robbed people door to door in order to really help the poor is plainly acting immorally: The end doesn’t justify the means. If we say altruism should always be voluntary, at least on this side of the millennium, so many of Rand’s objections fall to the ground. Consider this exaggeration, from the same book, p. 54: “The primordial morality of altruism, with its consequences of slavery, brute force, stagnant terror, and sacrificial furnaces.” How does the Salvation Army’s voluntarily helping the worthy poor to not starve in the streets necessarily cause the kinds of miseries unleashed by Communist dictators?

    Another deep error of Ayn Rand’s was to assume that all Christians everywhere at all times had to give up everything to the poor and weak, if they lived by what the Bible teaches, in order to be saved. She always equated altruism with sacrificing everything to someone else, leaving nothing for oneself. For example, notice how Rand describes altruism so exaggeratedly in this passage from John Galt’s speech in “Atlas Shrugged,” her emphasis:

    “You fear the man who has a dollar less than you, that dollar is rightfully his, he makes you feel like a moral defrauder. You hate the man who has a dollar more than you, that dollar is rightfully yours, he makes you feel that you are morally defrauded. The man below is a source of your guilt, the man above is a source of your frustration. You do not know what to surrender or demand, when to give and when to grab, what pleasure in life is rightfully yours and what debt is still unpaid by others–you struggle to evade, as ‘theory,’ the knowledge that by the moral standard you’ve accepted, you are guilty every moment of your life, there is no mouthful of food you swallow that is not needed by someone somewhere on earth–and you give up the problem in blind resentment, you conclude that moral perfection is not to be achieved or desired, that you will muddle through by snatching as snatch can . . .”

    Now self-sacrifice and good works on the model of Mother Teresa’s in Calcutta should be greatly admired. But a proper interpretation of the Bible when all the relevant passages are considered, not just that concerning what Jesus told the young rich ruler, shows most Christians need not live as she did in order to receive salvation. There’s a difference between having the faith and the corresponding good works that show one’s truly saved and going beyond the normal call of duty. For example, note that the standard amount to be given to the poor under the Old Testament law works out to an annualized basis of 2.7% of gross income, since the third tithe was only collected every third and sixth years in a seven-year cycle. “Tough love” also has a role to play when wisely but charitably attempting to aid the poor (cf. II Thess. 3:6-11). The old Victorian distinction between the worthy and unworthy poor is fully sound, although naturally many gradations among a continuum exist between both groups. For example, to give cash to a known unrecovered alcoholic homeless man will likely increase his misery eventually, not reduce it. Christians indeed do have a duty to care for the poor, but it’s hardly an unlimited responsibility that requires them to feel constantly guilty for every dollar that they don’t give away above their bare survival needs.

    Finally, a key flaw in Rand’s general perspective is how unimportant family life is in forming people’s characters and general personalities. Although she generally perceives marriage as a good institution, her heroes almost never have children of their own. That shouldn’t be a surprise, when she had no children of her own. (She also had an abortion, which explains much of her deeply ironic enmity against the pro-life position). Although one can play games with the words, much like the psychological egoists do who believe nobody is ever really self-sacrificing, it’s obvious that raising young children requires great sacrifices from their parents until they become truly self-supporting. Altruism, unconditional life, and undeserved transfers are the order of the day within the family unit, not rational selfishness based on mutually agreed exchanges. The struggles involved in teaching children to become responsible adults are among the most important in most people’s lives. For nearly all people, what they do in raising children well or badly is much more significant in affecting the future course of society than what they do at their occupations on a daily basis. Furthermore, even the important professions such as medicine and law, for which their practitioners often make life-and-death decisions on a daily basis, turn people into narrow specialists; good children rearing and married life use much more of the whole person’s capabilities and talents than even these professions. The classic problems caused by neglecting family life at the expense of work, such as portrayed in “Death of a Salesman” and “The Man in the Gray Flannel Suit,” receive no attention in Rand’s work. Ironically for a female writer, she puts forth a male-oriented view of self-esteem, which is derived from achievements at work, not personal relationships well maintained.

    In conclusion, Christians can easily intellectually derail the John Galt line of Ayn Rand’s Objectivist philosophy. As an atheistic Jew, she plainly never seriously investigated the intellectual foundation for Christianity, including the newer proofs for God’s existence, the flaws in the theory of evolution, and the historical evidence for the Bible’s accuracy and inspiration. She was unaware of the Medieval period’s positive intellectual developments. She described absurdly altruism as unlimited and as necessarily incorporating the use of force against those not sacrificing enough. She ignored the importance and necessary self-sacrifice of family life in forming people’s characters and developing our whole personalities. True, in certain cases her philosophy is correct, such as when it attacks the general relativistic skepticism of the reigning philosophical culture in epistemology, metaphysics, and even ethics. Her general philosophy is certainly preferable to David Hume’s and Immanuel Kant’s, but it’s dreadfully inferior to Thomas Aquinas’ general position. Finally, although it claims to celebrate life, Objectivism can only offer death to its adherents. Jesus Christ offers life to those who are called, repent, and believe (John 11:25): “I am the resurrection and the life; he who believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live, and whoever lives and believes in me shall never die.”

    • http://www.facebook.com/rahiym.allah Original Genetics

       BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

      Where’s my nails and crosses?  Where are the lions?

    • Boris Rarden

      Bullshit. You can’t promise life after death — it is not based on observed fact.

  • Anonymous

    Well, for good or ill, the movie has become a major box-office floppola (likely the worst of this decade so far). The film took in $1.8 million in the first weekend (mostly from us Rand fanatics) expanded into 50% more theaters this weekend, yet dropped 50% in total receipts. With a $25 million plus production and distribution cost, this will be a major bath for its frightened investors.

  • yales

    Well, for good or ill, the movie has become a major box-office floppola (likely the worst of this decade so far). The film took in $1.8 million in the first weekend (mostly from us Rand fanatics) expanded into 50% more theaters this weekend, yet dropped 50% in total receipts. With a $25 million plus production and distribution cost, this will be a major bath for its frightened investors.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Roseberry/100000595465001 Michael Roseberry

    I understand that Rand was no fan of Christianity, I would like to know what the people currently involved in the film think about Christianity and if the movie has any anti-Christian messages.

    • Anonymous

      I’ve heard that Jsu Garcia, who plays Francisco d’Anconia, finds the character fantastic and Rand’s ideas valuable and mostly right, but disagrees with her atheism. I’ve seen the movie four times and found no explicitly anti-Christian messages in it, but a woman in a less enthusiastic audience audibly protested against the adultery in the story, and in one dialogue exchange altruism is called into question–I recall the line as “stupid altruistic urges that have nothing to do with charity or fairness,” but it’s part of an expository discussion rather than an argument, so I suspect viewers tend to miss it or misunderstand it.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2QJH7OCSK4GUYCYZ3Z3HCQE2SY Michael

        Jsu cites as his guides to life Ayn rand and the New Age figure John-Roger – who seems one of the less offensive sorts around. The line Dagny says is something like “What’s with these stupid altruistic urges? They’re not fair or charitable.”

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2QJH7OCSK4GUYCYZ3Z3HCQE2SY Michael

      There’s not anti-Christianity in Pt 1, though the adultery [admittedly in the context of a defunct marriage] will not please most Christian viewers. [One might remember the Bible is full of sex!]

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Roseberry/100000595465001 Michael Roseberry

    I understand that Rand was no fan of Christianity, I would like to know what the people currently involved in the film think about Christianity and if the movie has any anti-Christian messages.

    • AS1965UAR

      I’ve heard that Jsu Garcia, who plays Francisco d’Anconia, finds the character fantastic and Rand’s ideas valuable and mostly right, but disagrees with her atheism. I’ve seen the movie four times and found no explicitly anti-Christian messages in it, but a woman in a less enthusiastic audience audibly protested against the adultery in the story, and in one dialogue exchange altruism is called into question–I recall the line as “stupid altruistic urges that have nothing to do with charity or fairness,” but it’s part of an expository discussion rather than an argument, so I suspect viewers tend to miss it or misunderstand it.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2QJH7OCSK4GUYCYZ3Z3HCQE2SY Michael

        Jsu cites as his guides to life Ayn rand and the New Age figure John-Roger – who seems one of the less offensive sorts around. The line Dagny says is something like “What’s with these stupid altruistic urges? They’re not fair or charitable.”

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2QJH7OCSK4GUYCYZ3Z3HCQE2SY Michael

      There’s not anti-Christianity in Pt 1, though the adultery [admittedly in the context of a defunct marriage] will not please most Christian viewers. [One might remember the Bible is full of sex!]

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FHS5DDADJCGB3XTXTQN7XKFGFU tomatodon

    Sad to see less than ten in the theater when I watched the film a few days ago. And the earlier showing had no more according to some women who were just leaving.

    While I enjoyed the film and felt it was well made I’m not sure it would be so easy to really understand many of the events without reading the book. The director had a massive task trying to take a long novel and condense it to something meaningful in less than two hours. Yes, I know there are possibly two more installments.

    Some viewers may not enjoy some of the dialogue which stays true to Rand’s verbose, preachy style but those who do not get hung up on this will be rewarded with a film containing thoughtful ideas for the present time.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FHS5DDADJCGB3XTXTQN7XKFGFU tomatodon

    Sad to see less than ten in the theater when I watched the film a few days ago. And the earlier showing had no more according to some women who were just leaving.

    While I enjoyed the film and felt it was well made I’m not sure it would be so easy to really understand many of the events without reading the book. The director had a massive task trying to take a long novel and condense it to something meaningful in less than two hours. Yes, I know there are possibly two more installments.

    Some viewers may not enjoy some of the dialogue which stays true to Rand’s verbose, preachy style but those who do not get hung up on this will be rewarded with a film containing thoughtful ideas for the present time.

  • http://twitter.com/LIBIntOrg Libertarian

    A lot of people feel keep at it and look forward to the next parts.

  • LIBIntOrg

    A lot of people feel keep at it and look forward to the next parts.

  • Anonymous

    The movie was a powerhouse in my eyes. I saw it a few weeks ago having never read the books. The movie theater had a respectable sized audience. At first I sat watching and waiting for “the big message”. After a few minutes, I realized the point was to relax and listen. The message was in every word of dialogue and gesture. I sat hoping it would never end, this being the first time I truly saw my ideals and values portrayed on a movie screen. The closing voiceover was so powerful that the entire theater burst into appluase! I loved it so much that I began reading the novel that very night. I was surprised how true it was to the story and the dialogue straight from the pages. I hope the filmakers are not deterred by some bad press. These are not popular ideals but they are powerful. I can’t wait to see the next installments.

  • Anonymous

    The movie was a powerhouse in my eyes. I saw it a few weeks ago having never read the books. The movie theater had a respectable sized audience. At first I sat watching and waiting for “the big message”. After a few minutes, I realized the point was to relax and listen. The message was in every word of dialogue and gesture. I sat hoping it would never end, this being the first time I truly saw my ideals and values portrayed on a movie screen. The closing voiceover was so powerful that the entire theater burst into appluase! I loved it so much that I began reading the novel that very night. I was surprised how true it was to the story and the dialogue straight from the pages. I hope the filmakers are not deterred by some bad press. These are not popular ideals but they are powerful. I can’t wait to see the next installments.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2QJH7OCSK4GUYCYZ3Z3HCQE2SY Michael

      Beautiful. :)

  • amandaness6

    The movie was a powerhouse in my eyes. I saw it a few weeks ago having never read the books. The movie theater had a respectable sized audience. At first I sat watching and waiting for “the big message”. After a few minutes, I realized the point was to relax and listen. The message was in every word of dialogue and gesture. I sat hoping it would never end, this being the first time I truly saw my ideals and values portrayed on a movie screen. The closing voiceover was so powerful that the entire theater burst into appluase! I loved it so much that I began reading the novel that very night. I was surprised how true it was to the story and the dialogue straight from the pages. I hope the filmakers are not deterred by some bad press. These are not popular ideals but they are powerful. I can’t wait to see the next installments.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2QJH7OCSK4GUYCYZ3Z3HCQE2SY Michael

      Beautiful. :)

  • Anonymous

    Hugh Akston’s cigarette (with $ sign) was so underplayed.  I drove 85 miles to Eau Claire Wi to see this. I loved it. Cant wait for parts II and III. 

  • noneavailable

    Hugh Akston’s cigarette (with $ sign) was so underplayed.  I drove 85 miles to Eau Claire Wi to see this. I loved it. Cant wait for parts II and III. 

  • Anonymous

    All this and Part II and III haven’t yet been released.  I can hardly wait a year to revisit the first part and see how then next episode develops.  It really is a great story and the movie is doing it justice.

  • floopie6

    All this and Part II and III haven’t yet been released.  I can hardly wait a year to revisit the first part and see how then next episode develops.  It really is a great story and the movie is doing it justice.

  • http://twitter.com/alltidandreas Andreas Lindegren

    Hmm, I really like the idea, thou the movie should be set in an america of the past, with an industrial theme. I am afraid the current look will spoil the effect of John Galt.

  • http://twitter.com/alltidandreas Andreas Lindegren

    Hmm, I really like the idea, thou the movie should be set in an america of the past, with an industrial theme. I am afraid the current look will spoil the effect of John Galt.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/W2PCDOXXOJQRGJ7GZHRXUAFDXI miklrz

    I enjoyed this movie thoroughly, and find it not surprising (and more than mildly ironic) the likes of Ebert and others of his ilk panned it using their platform of supposedly artistic review.  Panned, but hardly reviewed it, it was more his thinly veiled disgust with the accurately portrayed themes of the book.  Laughably, Roger (author of the screenplay for Beyond the Valley of the Dolls) managed to focus most of his review of his distaste for the drinking portrayed in the film, of all things.  

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/W2PCDOXXOJQRGJ7GZHRXUAFDXI miklrz

    I enjoyed this movie thoroughly, and find it not surprising (and more than mildly ironic) the likes of Ebert and others of his ilk panned it using their platform of supposedly artistic review.  Panned, but hardly reviewed it, it was more his thinly veiled disgust with the accurately portrayed themes of the book.  Laughably, Roger (author of the screenplay for Beyond the Valley of the Dolls) managed to focus most of his review of his distaste for the drinking portrayed in the film, of all things.  

  • http://www.facebook.com/rahiym.allah Original Genetics

     BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

    Where’s my nails and crosses?  Where are the lions?

  • Boris Rarden

    Bullshit. You can’t promise life after death — it is not based on observed fact.